How to Tell Someone Things They Don't Want to Hear

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Hoo boy, does panel four hit home. Not just because I pretty much only wear blue shorts and a solid colored t-shirt almost every day, but because I've been judged by the quality of my ideas and, not only were they found wanting, but I had to agree with the finding....

May 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTimP

Over time, and after having spoken to many women about it (who quite often disagree with one another on what constitutes "fashionable"), I've found that it isn't that men have no fashion sense - it's that women in general have an inflated and often very partial, biased sense of what constitutes fashion, while most men are free of such delusions (despite being given to believe they simply lack understanding).

To demonstrate what I mean: if you disbelieve me, and are generally considered to have no fashion sense yourself, attempt to suggest something you consider "fashionable" for a woman of such beliefs to wear; if they do not already value your opinion as highly as that of their peers, they will react remarkably like an entrenched politician to your suggestion that they pursue radical change.

They will also tend to argue that your suggestion is completely unnecessary, and probably slam a few doors in your face, insisting that you don't understand word one of any concept of fashion, and bemoaning what they consider to be your "fashion-stupidity", or "ignorance".

Meanwhile, you will have the last laugh (or at least the second-to-last laugh), as thanks to your universal understanding of fashion, you are motivated to wear comfortable, practical clothing most of the time, and to only wear "attractive" clothing as described by women of that ilk when required to entice a desirable response from them.

May 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTachyon

Happy birthday, Scott.

Hopefully, Missy didn't take you clothes shopping for a gift.

May 11, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterjaklumen

The fact that men's clothing is almost universally plain can be traced back entirely to one person: George Brummell, who single-handedly changed male fashions from being brightly-coloured and extravagant to almost ludicrously plain.

May 11, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterGDwarf

@Tachyon: I think I agree with your point -- that "fashion sense" is arbitrary and doesn't make any sense -- but I'm not sure I follow your demonstration. If fashion sense were a real, objective thing -- if some clothes were measurably better than others -- then your demonstration would still go the same way, wouldn't it? A well-informed person usually ignores or insults suggestions made by ignorant people BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT VERY GOOD.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAmy

For a man, clothes shopping by himself is not boring because it doesn't have time to get boring. Go into the store, grab something, get out. The problem is when you're with a woman who thinks it actually makes a difference what you get.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMarco

Perhaps we men should aspire to dress as Conchita Wurst to add excitement to our wardrobe... I usually buy clothes to try to avoid (a) looking dreadful and (b) standing out too much. Clothes shopping seems more stressful than boring to me.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJeremyS

I own a florescent orange flannel shirt that is so bright that it seems to emit light. some "fashionable" people seem not to appreciate it, which just makes me think they are boring.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterducken

I have two X chromosomes but I loathe shopping for clothes, and my current wardrobe is very small and plain on purpose. I feel very lucky that my work lets me wear clothes that are comfortable, not fashionable. I bought a pair of men's pants two days ago. Yay boring.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAnne

I "transcended clothing" for a while when I was working from home, but then webcams were invented.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRedshift

Today's comic reminds me of this scene from The Mighty Boosh.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBernie

I like my plain clothes. If the most important conversation topic about me is my choice in clothing, then I've screwed up somewhere.

On a side note, serial killers should wear audacious outfits. That way, when they're finally caught, the soulless news outlets will have a dilemma to face: Do we talk about the victims or do we talk about his "wacky' personality?

Note: The above situation is only a dilemma when you're soulless.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMatthew

I wear shoes, pants, and shirts. Aren't they in fashion anymore?

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMike N

The irony is that whole swathes of us single guys actual really *enjoy* clothes-shopping, but it's the men who don't and dress like schlubs who women scoop up into relationships...and take with them to stores.

Meanwhile, the fashionable male stands alone and realizes that the ladies saw him at the one of the mall boutiques and probably just assumed he was gay! ;)

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterBrian

I never had the experience of most men's clothing being boring; I did however have a first wife who insisted on wearing the most boring clothing she could find. As I tried to explain, when she looked up one day, and found that nobody was looking at her, that would be me.
Second wife does not automatically reject every suggestion I make, and actively seeks to find enticing clothing to wear.
She was also recently designated "a very lucky gal" by a coworker who ascertained that yes, the man in the kilt the coworker had seen last week was indeed her husband.

May 12, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterkhereva

@Brian are you questioning the extent of my vanity!? Outraaaaaaaaaaaaaage!

May 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMillie

I say Bring Back The Peacocks!
In the '70s, guys could strut around in platform shoes, colorful clothes, dashikis, whatever, and nobody accused them of being gay.
Maybe that's because the more flamboyant they were, the more female attention they got.
Somehow, fashion has got men back to uber-drab, and women out of the comfortable shoes and into 6 inch heels with toecrushers (or those idiotic heel-less things that were causeing injuries awhile back)
A little cultural cohesiveness is fine, but this crushing conformity needs to go the way of drawstring pants.
I'm spared any need to shop for fashionable clothes by the fact that if I wore them, I would look like a toad in a tutu. In t-shirts and jeans, I'm not too bad for my age, and that's good enough.

May 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDee

@GDwarf - Huh. Did not know that. Well, thank you George Brummell.

May 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKylroy

A major problem is that western culture has taken to supposing that anything that isn't drab is "flamboyant" or effeminate, and thus, degrading.

Hence, the best way to look "manly" is to be uninteresting. Anything else invites criticism.

May 13, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterThe Chosen One

Is olive drab a MASH reference or am I seeing things?

May 13, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterqwerty

@qwerty


The US Military calls it's green Olive Drab. Has since before the first world war. So, yeah, it's not a mash reference, it's an army reference. OD has gone through several variations as to the exact hue over the past century (and that's before fading, which is *very* common) but if you just think "army green", you'll have a pretty good idea of what it is. It may be in use as a color of some sort of significance in other countries, but in the US, it's pretty much synonymous with army green.

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSome Guy

Meh. I'm just gonna pretend I'm right. And I technically am. Season 4, episode 1 (Welcome to Korea, Part 1).

May 14, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterqwerty

Heh, being male and gay I get to have good or no fashion sense without recrimination; it's palmed off either way as exhibiting my "straight side" or my "gay side". I get to judge both men and women harshly (read: bitchy) on their sense of fashion. And I get to complain about a lack of good fashion for men without sounding... gay... Hmmmm lol

May 16, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterNixon

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