How to Disagree with Someone Else's Deeply Held Beliefs

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To be fair they're already Jenkins, it just isn't until their statement that you realize it.

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterLochat

JJ would remake Windows with a Big Red Ball of Death. Dunno what it is about big red balls with him.

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterLummox JR

Did you dislike Star Trek VIII as well?

Note from Scott: the roman numerals get unwieldy, so I'll just go by the names. I enjoyed Generations, but I don't consider it to be a particularly good movie. I openly loved First Contact. I found Insurrection to be more flawed than not, but it had some good stuff mixed in there. Nemesis was wretched all the way through. It's the only Trek movie that I've only seen once. I've tried to watch it again, but can't get further than one or two scenes. Blech!

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJota

Wow, first Rick gets to be right, then Mullet Boss shows unexpected insight, and finally Jenkins proves to have better taste than Scott.

Who knew?

Interesting times we live in. Interesting times...

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterkhereva

Panel 2 is fantastic!

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAri

It's a sad day....when I agree with Jenkins more than Scott.

March 20, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterW.R.Printz

Profitability is about the only thing reliable about Windows. Other than perhaps crashing.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMatt

Profitability is pribably the only thing reliable about Windows. Other than perhaps crashing.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMatt

I guess from now on, I'll have to say "Nobody but Scott likes Windows 8".

Really, though, I don't see how one can LIKE an operating system. For me, a perfect OS is one I don't really think about at all. The best impression it can leave is "fine, I guess".

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterLydia

JJ was kicked between the legs as a child and big red balls have been on his mind ever since.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterEric

Lummox JR "Dunno what it is about big red balls with him."

I'll explain when you're a little older...

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSpatulaoDoom

Abrams is my prime example for the difference between writing for tv and for movies. His tv shows start great but turn to crap before the first season ends. Most likely reason being that hehas to start explaining things without being able to remove the stuff he can't find a good explanation for. The man seem to work by trying every idea he has. Most may end up terrible, but some are worth more than gold. With movies, he has a chance to filter out the crap.
That said, it did upset me that he made references to events that paralleled the tv show, (Mudd incident, tribbles) even though, having not yet gone exploring as part of the five year mission, those events would not have happened.
I have to say the use of Khan, especially the minimized setup, mildly upset me. I think very few of us were surprised that John Harrison was Khan. If I had been in charge, I'd have used another foe for the second movie, introduced John as an experimental weapons special assigned to assist the Enterprise, becoming friendly with Kirk, have him be crucial to helping defeat the foe, but by more violent and murderous means than Kirk felt comfortable with, leading to Kirk asking that John be removed from the Enterprise and evaluated. John would be apologetic and accept his fate. Then the third film would be the reveal that he is Khan. It might have actually caught some of us off guard. But then, he has a career writing films while I'm putting all this in a comment on a webcomic, so there's that.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenteraSimplerSimon

Who remembers Michael Okuda?

He should redesign Windows 8.1.

(Windows 8 is soooo 2013!)

Note from Scott: You know, that's a really good idea. He should at least design an android launcher.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterEric de Redelijkheid

I just got a new job with a super awesome company. The only thing I dislike is having to go back to Windows 7 on a computer without a touchscreen.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSean

Windows 8 makes me thankful that there will be a Windows 9.

Stark Trek: Into Darkness makes me thankful that JJ Abrams will not be making another Star Trek film.

I'd argue that the Curse of the Odds doesn't apply to JJ Trek, as it's not really Star Trek. Then again, maybe that's not important, since Nemesis smashed that rule into tiny bits by killing the franchise so dead it took seven years to reboot.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJediBear

Actually, two rational agents *cannot* agree to disagree, per Robert Aumann's agreement theorem*. There's an easier to digest version of the results here.

* Yes, I know you have to satisfy several requirements before making this claim, but... math!

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMiguel

Microsoft is more like the Romulans, they keep failing to realize the futility of their warring ways vs. the beauty of the logic of Vulcans.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMister Tee

Windows 8 is a pain in the backside, in my opinion. Too cartoony and bright for my tastes, plus touchscreens are outside of my needs at the moment, so having an OS that practically begs for one is kind of moot.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDavid

Obviously, some of us don't believe it's morally correct to *touch* our screens. And Star Trek was some semi-amusing TV show we watched when we were kids back in the 60's. What's next Meyer? A movie reboot of Lost? Sheesh... The only thing reliable here is that Jenkins is still a complete a$$hole.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMr. Obvious

I have to agree with Scott on this one, I actually like windows 8. Or it could be because my office ruined windows 7 for me by using the windows 98 theme. Oh the horror!

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterarwenxs

@Lydia My brother also likes Windows 8.

As far as I can tell, the only major differences between Windows 7 and 8 are that I could play DVDs on my computer when I had Windows 7, and none of my games crashed.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterORione


March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterHoney

I personally don't like Windows 8, which is on my husband's (non-touch screen) laptop. It's really not a great operating system for a normal computer, and it makes it hard to do the kinds of things we like to use it for. That said, I know people who have Win8 tablets that love it. So, I think it works well for certain things, but not others. *shrug* I really don't get why anyone would get worked up about an operating system.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterKatie

Lydia - "a perfect OS is one I don't really think about at all"


March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterResuna

nobody likes lens-flare BSoD jokes

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermexicalidude

I thought you hated the new star trek movies, as they eschewed everything star trek means, in favor or being gimmicky and popular?

Note from Scott: I don't know what I said to give you that impression. I loved both of them. They're different from the earlier incarnations, sure, but they had to be.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterThe Chosen One

Awesome comic. All the statements in panel 2 are so true! :)

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJan

Really, though, I don't see how one can LIKE an operating system. For me, a perfect OS is one I don't really think about at all. The best impression it can leave is "fine, I guess".

Arguably, the best reaction to an OS is "what OS?", as in it just gets out of your way and does its job so well, you don't even know it's there. Coincidentally, this happens to be Linus Torvalds' (creator of Linux) philosophy (cite: his interview in "Revolution OS").

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterNathan Paul Simons

Some people like Windows 8. Some people do not like Windows 8. As a tech support person for a small start up that is still trying to figure out why our products worked in 7 but not in 8, I am most decidedly in the "Do not like" camp.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterLEH

Funny thing, when Windows XP appeared, they said it was too cartoony and bright and unprofessional and unpractical. Now that's the version that business doesn't want to let go of.

By the way, I don't like Windows 8. But I should catch up and not like Windows 8.1.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRobert Carnegie

I love Windows 8. When it was first announced I recoiled in horror, but now that I am using it? It better.

I still hate Metro but I rarely have to use it.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterChelsea

Not sure if you've answered this previously Scott - are you a fan of the redlettermedia Trek reviews?

Note from Scott: I'm embarrassed to admit,I was unaware of them.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterDave

As tech support rep I can honestly of all the OSes I deal with on a daily basis, Windows 8 is the one most likely to give me migraines. They stripped away many key features of the OS, especially ones that allowed users to to troubleshoot and fix their PC. As others have said, 8 is flashy and cartoony for a reason, it was specifically made for tablets that moms,grandmas and little kids would like. It's a system designed for a toy and it shows.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSith

I wanted to like Generations better but the plot points involved were so over-the-top stupid. The first shot gets through the shields and they don't bother to rotate frequencies, like they've been doing since the moment they met the Borg? The whole plot is one guy trying to get back into a paradise at any cost? Ulgh. I could deal with the fanservice of bringing back Kirk to pass the torch; it's everything else that was stupid.

But Nemesis was way, way worse. My problems with the movie started before I ever saw it, when I learned the director retconned in the Remans (seriously?) just because he was always fascinated by Nosferatu. Make a vampire movie on your own time, twit!

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterLummox JR

Vista, 7 and 8: all pants.

There's a good reason a whole bunch of reasons 1 in 3 PCs are still running XP. Especially in corporate and government environments.

I'm all Linux and open source at home and have been for 2 or 3 years. I only use Windows at work (XP, on a government site).

Anyway Scott, we love you for your wacky, off-the-wall, irreverent and surreal views on life. No wonder you like Windows 8. ;-)

(Is it true Windows 8.1 has an XP mode? That might be OK too.)

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterSimes

On a non-touch device, I HATE Windows 8. On a Touch device it works ok I guess, but I'd rather just use Android there. Meh.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAylin

Wow, Scott, you've opened up a huge can of gagh with this one.
Now you're just going to have to have a multi-part series on "How to disseminate the various Star Trek movies".

And I hate Windows 8.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMike N

Attention developers!
Windows 8 is not designed for you.

Attention Star Trek Fans!
JJAbrams (any version) is not designed for you.

March 21, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterben

I see that my attempt to correct my comment resulted in a worse offense of the English language... a typo. And you approved both.

Well played.

March 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMatt

I am the Jenkins
I am the Jenkins
I am the Walrus
Goo Goo Goo Joob!!

or worse

We are the Jenkins
Resistance is Futile

March 22, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMatthew
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