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Please can we now have a PC/MAC flame war? I haven't seen one for ages?!!
This pretty much replicates a recent conversation with my wife about phones
I'm a computer type guy, what with my computer science degree and running my own programming business for 15 years (I only state this to differentiate myself from most computer type guys) and I can concur this conversation is precisely how it actually happens in real life. So here's a Basic Instruction that actually works. I'm scared!
Classic instance where I read the title and immediately laughed even before getting a chance to read the first panel.
[Obligatory Linux comment]
[Obligatory comment about how homebrew OSes are better than Linux]
When I read this, somehow I came to the conclusion that it would be a good idea to try touching my touchscreen with my mouse. It didn't work very well.
I feel this way with some end users when we used to just reset passwords to cat123 and they came back with the spelling katonetwothree.
Damn, I love IT work.
Also computer type, guy going for a bachelors in comp sci at the moment, also a Linux user (yay Debain), also helped little brother by new laptop last week (boo windowz h8)
so I feel the urge to comment, macs suck
[Obligatory Chromebook comment]
System.out.println("[obligatory comments about how Windows and OS X are basically the same thing from a usability standpoint, albeit with different 'user experiences']")
System.out.println("[obligatory comment about how Linux has fundamentally zero market share]")
[System.out.println("obligatory comment about how no computer connected to anything can possibly be secure, no matter how strong of encryption you use]")
...I'm taking a Java course. m@j0r h@x0r over here!
[Obligatory comment about XKCD's butterflies]
My late mother was the sort of person who was in Rick's position, minus the 'being smart enough to ask the family tech geek for advice on what to buy.' She bought a netbook without any sort of CD or DVD drive off of QVC, ordered cable internet from the first provider she could find in the area and expected me to just connect everything for her. Without asking me for advice.And did I mention this was her first computer?She managed to screw it up in about a month. The people she took it to took it upon themselves to install a bunch of new software to make things 'easier' for her, not taking into account first that she was completely computer illiterate. She basically couldn't use it because the Firefox browser they installed didn't have the browser toolbar that came with the software included to connect to the router they sent (because she didn't have a CD drive to reinstall it).See, she 'needed' the toolbar because she didn't know how to use a URL bar. Instead, she typed URLs into the search window on the toolbar (one of four toolbars she had installed at one point) and picked the website she wanted off of the resulting search results. And because this system 'worked' for her, she refused to learn any other way. I am not making this up.
If you're gonna' just web surf and e-mail, and your funds are limited, the answer is Chromebook.
I think everyone is missing the real point - Rick is getting shafted and all is right with the world.
Which one has the "any" key?
Obviously, nobody around here remembers "The Good Old Days". When I was in high school, we took typing classes on manual typewriters. To work with a computer, one had to punch a lot of holes in a stack of cards. We worried about how much hp our cars were putting out.
Computers are the new hotrods. My son has a box with a flame job on the case.
Public library FTW!
If you just want web and email, I suggest buying a used laptop, any brand, from the classified ads or C****slist. Then go read the browsing history. You'll be delighted, amazed, shocked, and probably sickened.
Ah, the classic incorrectly used "PC", which means personal computer (as opposed to server, workstation, mainframe, etc.) Rick's shiny new Mac would be a personal computer, and therefore a "PC". Heck, my Linux machine is a personal computer too!
Wow, poking fun at computers, yet dancing nicely around the most obvious flame war triggers.
Hey! My grandmother had the tv/pc setup for a while! It was sort of awesome.
Is it too early for Steam OS fanbois to post?
I'm an English major and people *still* ask me for computer help.
PC is short for "IBM PC-comaptible", which is a particular kind of personal computer. Seeing as I have a personal laptop, a personal desktop, a personal smart-phone, a personal server, and a personal tablet, I don't think "personal computer" as a term that's *not* in reference to the particular architecture makes much sense anymore.
Do people still argue PC v. Mac? Surely. I know guys that still argue the "Atari 800 v. Commodore 64" issue. In fact, I was surprised it wasn't brought up in Scott's book.
@Dave, no. PC is short for personal computer. It only beame what you called it when those ads started airing
Can we argue about twos-complement vs sign-magnitude architectures? Y'know, just for old-times' sake?
I sell computers. I have this conversation at least twice a day.
Given that "I'm a Mac; I'm a PC" was an ad broadcast by Mac... I accept Mac's admission that they're not in the business of selling personal computers. For years we've admitted that Macs were the computer for people who didn't know how to use/ didn't want to own a computer; now we have tablets and phones for people who don't even want to own a Mac. And Android offers the very latest most advanced Android phone with "Easy Mode," so that you can use the most complex smart phone to do the least.And to someone, somewhere, this actually makes sense.
Congratulations, Scott. You just penned a classic.
If all you want to do is surf the web and cruise for ladies, get a Tesla. It's a computer with a huge battery, and you can actually sit inside it. Should you actually meet someone online, you can even use it as a sports car.
Well it wasnt quite a flame war but at least i riled someone by saying pc vs mac instead of windows vs mac, ftw
I think what's being lost here is that Ric only needs a computing device of whatever sort merely to answer e-mail, but never to send apparently.
There are certain work functions that I could perform at home, but only with a Windows computer, for reasons that I won't get into here. Since my employer doesn't supply me with a computer, and since I'm damned if I'll use my own for work, the choice is obvious, Mac. If my MacBook dies, it will be another Mac, or maybe Linux. My Ubuntu desktop was easy enough to use until the hardware gave out.
Unless the company wants to buy me a Windows laptop that I can use at home, too.
Ironically, with Windows 8 it may actually be much easier for him to use a Linux system rather than Windows-based pc. Remember Vista, aka the Ubuntu advertisement?
The correct nomenclature - as used by most consumers - is [when asking a sales clerk at a computer-y store]:
"GIMME ONE-O-DEM GIGA-THINGS! GIMME IT REAL GOOD! AH GOTTA GIT ME ONE-O-DEM GIGA-THINGS AND GET ME ON THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY! AH'M GONNA SURF ME SUM GIGAWEBS!"
Needs more Linux. For SAFE browsing of the web and reading emails, a Linux PC is perfect, and yes, you can buy them with Linux pre-installed.
I use Lubuntu. That doesn't really have any bearing on the discussion at hand, but figured that I should chime in for some reason.
Buying a computer (tablets aside) with an OS pre-installed? Ahahaha! You kill me, Scott.
Maybe it was not common usage everywhere, but I recall using the term PC to refer to IBM Compatible PCs since at least 1997. It was commonplace in my high school to here that distinction in the late 90s/early 2000s.
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