How to Tell Someone That They Are Still Wrong

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Reader Comments (28)

As a Star Trek fan, I have no Blu-Ray sets. I have all of the best Star Trek movies on VHS.

April 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTheMortallyWounded

Not liking a Trek movie because it doesn't look like a Trek movie...

Douchebag has evolved into...Trekkie!

April 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterBuckybone

Honestly, I kind of agree with the other guy. The opening 10 minutes restored my faith a little bit, but honestly, why does Star Trek need so many explosions?

April 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterWolf

Panel 3 reminds me of this classic Onion video: Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Film as 'Fun, Watchable'

April 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterEvan

My reasons for preemptively not liking the new Star Trek movies are simple: reboot.

This is however almost outweighed by the presence of prodigy Chekov.

So many hard choices...

April 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterLythande

When I go to see movies that are either reboots of series I've liked in the past, or movies versions of books I liked, I have learned it's best to just treat it as an entirely different thing. Movies in my opinion will never be as good as the book only because the director is showing their interpretation and not the fantasy world I had set up in my head while I was reading it. Rebooted series like this and Evil Dead won't hold the same nostalgia of an unknown or little appreciated property and will end up following their own storyline. It's ok to not like something because it isn't what you remember, but you just have to accept that it's because you expected more from it than you should have.

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterUltimaWraith

When should we expect the movie version of "Off to be the Wizard"? I would buy the blue-ray of it...

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered Commentermohrorless

I'm a Star Trek fan, which is to say, I love TOS and movies 2, 4, and 6. None of the rest exists. I didn't see the last "creative reimagining" and I won't be seeing this one. I still have TOS on disc, and whenever I hear the phrase "creative reimagining," I reach for my pistol.

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterkhereva

I have no Blu-Ray sets. I actually prefer (and own) the animated series on DVD. Especially the episode with the Slaver Weapon.

jsc

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterjsc

I'm pre-emptively hating the new Star Trek film because it won't have Luke Skywalker in it.

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMKE Dave

People need to go back and rewatch their Star Trek. There was a TON of shooting, explosions, and near catastrophe all the time. It doesn't matter which series you were talking about, all of them had about as much action and violence as they could pull together.

The later series were even more pronounced -- in Enterprise, they were attacked by just about every alien they encountered (in fact, at one point Trip even says something like, "Why do we even bother out here when every alien we come across tries to blow us up?"). Voyager was constantly hounded by the Borg. DS9 was in the middle of a war for like 4 seasons. The TNG movies were all fighting, all the time.

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterSean

To many good points. I just want to see it BECAUSE I watched the previous one.

Unfortunately, that's why I will also watch the next "Fast and the Furious" or "Scary Movie."

This system has its ups and downs.

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterThestas

Off to Be the Wizard was fantastic. Are you planning on it being a series, because it seemed open-ended enough to allow for one.

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterMatthew

Panel 3 makes an excellent point. The first time I saw the trailer it was almost over by the time I realized it was actually for a Star Trek movie. I thought it was some sort of X-Men spin-off at first.

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterPatrick

Ordered Off to Be the Wizard in paperback due the recommendations here. Trying using your US Amazon affiliates link, hopefully it worked.

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterfugacity

I haven't watched a Star Trek movie since they promised to kill Kirk, but only killed a clone of him. (not that that wasn't classic Star Trek, just too predictable)

Okay, you Trekkies may feel free to hate me for that

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDee

@Sean, found the Trekkie

April 17, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterDestructicon

khereva - I think it's odd that you consider yourself a Star Trek fan if you only like 3 of the 12 movies and 1 series (3 seasons) of the 5 series (28 seasons). If you didn't care for the vast majority of Star Trek, why do you think of yourself really as a fan?

April 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterSean

I liked the reboot, so I'll check Into Darkness out, though that running and jumping and underwater Enterprise gave me great pause .... I'm blaming that trailer on marketing and assuming that's not what the movies is about.
Meanwhile, a fertilizer plant went boom and just leveled a town south of me ... not a Klingon in sight.

April 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKevin A Kunreuther

"Trek movies are about standing around and talking with your guns holstered" made me think.

If the JJA reboot purposefully made Star Trek "more like Star Wars," then were the SW Prequel movies made "more like Star Trek" _by design?_

Hm . . . .

April 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterRob

Uh-oh... what controversy have you managed to get yourself Into?

April 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterXaxyx

Love this one.

It was pretty funny seeing some of the reactions to the last Star Trek movie. I mean, although I protest at being a Trekkie I like probably 50% of Voyager and Enterprise even, which likely makes me pretty close to a huge fan, and the rage at it was hilarious.

Star Trek was also full of dumb silliness. It had deep, introspective plots too, but if someone argues the lack of those means something is not 'real' Trek? That counts out a lot of the Trek canon at a stroke.

Don't push it though, 'Into Darkness', or I'm guessing we'll see 'How to tell someone who you told were still wrong, that they were right all along' (Ok, it's not a punchy title)

April 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterKieran

I laugh in derision at the trekkies who disdain the reboot for not being enough like other Star Trek. Then I remember that I refuse to even consider watching any Tom Cruise Mission Impossible film ever since the first one turned out to be a one-man action spy thriller rather than an actual Mission Impossible (team-based) story. So there you go. I am a complete hypocrite.

April 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterStevenR

The Star Trek franchise desperately needs to move forward instead of dwelling in the past (See Entrerprise series, TOS reboot). I especially have no need to see a retelling of previous Trak highlights. The Wrath of Khan stands up prefectly well as it is. Tell some new stories instead!

April 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterLintman

Vonda McIntire once said that the scene where Kirk died in The Entropy Effect was one of the most satisfying ones she'd ever written.

April 18, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterResuna

Sean -- because I love what I consider the "real" Star Trek, and consider the crap that followed it base heresies punishable by flogging. As with my love of Star Wars: I love the movie I saw in 1977, entitled 'Star Wars' (that was its actual full title in 1977), and abominate the hideous... things... that followed in its wake. It's sort of like saying that I'm a Sherlock Holmes fan, and recognizing that that does not obligate me to like every third rate ripoff of Doyle's work.

April 19, 2013 | Unregistered Commenterkhereva

Star Trek Into Darkness was pretty good, if deeply flawed. My main problem with it is that all the movies pretty much ignore the original Star trek concept of exploring new worlds and ourselves at the same time to focus on obsession, revenge, and/or the past coming back to bite you in the butt! Any one of the animated Star Trek episodes - expanded and made into a movie rather than a cheap cartoon with great art but rotten animation - would have made a better movie than any of the movies that were actually made. I'd especially have loved to see Yesteryear, Bem, Ambergris Element, Pirates of Orion, More Tribbles More Troubles, Eye of the Beholder, or Beyond the Farthest Star given a movie treatment! The cartoons are undeservedly forgotten just because they were made with such low quality animation and because even high-quality cartoons get no respect in the USA, but the stories themselves were all excellent!

October 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJason Toddman

"The previews don't look like a Star Trek movie to me". I guess Scott was voicing his own concerns there... and I feel time proved him right.

July 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterIgnacio Agulló

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