How to Give Somebody the Respect They Deserve

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Reader Comments (30)

Gold, you have the third pane thing down pact!!!

September 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterYohance

Correction, down pat!!!

September 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterYohance

The third panel is beautiful.

And I have to agree with the sentiment in the fourth. The world could use more billionaires doing what Bill Gates has been doing with his money after retirement. Only even better.

September 1, 2011 | Unregistered Commentermeh

The sad thing though is that the only thing Steve Jobs might be doing in his retirement is dying, if recent photos are an indication. I hope not, though.

September 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterMichael

I don't like Jobs quite that much, but I still whole-heartedly agree with panel 1.

September 1, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterBWM

Heck, the Treo wasn't even the first smartphone of its kind. The Nokia Communicator came out way back in 1996, and did all those things as well. Badly.

I'm one of those weirdos who uses (and prefers) a Mac but also sees its failings, but meanwhile I also use (and prefer, and develop software for) Android devices. I realize that if it weren't for iOS, Android wouldn't be nearly as good as it is today, but I also feel that the Android team have improved things a lot, at least for developers. Now if only they could get the full user experience there.

(Also, as much as I love Android and mostly prefer it over iOS, there's a few spots where iOS is still superior. The fact that you can back up your entire phone and transfer its data to a new phone without any trouble, including purchased apps whether they've been removed from the App Store or not, is much more user-friendly than with Android, where you can only do partial backup things and are beholden to whatever Google decides to keep in the cloud. Having had several apps that I paid for disappear from the Market and then no longer being able to install those on new devices or any recourse or sympathy from Google is just crap.)

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterfluffy

Neither Jobs nor Apple has shown any philanthropic nature during his tenure. If he is to do better than Gates, it would involve a fundamental change. And are Apple products better? Apple built a brand on being the underdog ... the small guy that has products for people who want to give Microsoft the single finger greeting, and they built the largest public company in the world based on that marketing plan. I have used Apple. I have used Microsoft. I see little difference in usability. They are just tools to get a task done ... that is all. Though I have to say that my favorite OS is Linux ... you know, the OS running the servers that host the majority of the internet.

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterAlex

If Steve Jobs beats Bill Gates in the charity stakes, our species might just have a chance.

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterInnominate

It could have ended at panel 3. Panel 4 was like a bonus.

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJason

As the page was loading, while I was sitting here looking at the comic's title bar before the picture came up, my mind boggled with which cast member would be paying respect to another, and how they would deserve it. The obvious one was Scott & Missy, but that woulda been too easy so I thought maybe more ribbing between Rick and Scott. Way to shoot for the ringer, Mr Meyer.

Always funny to beat around the fanboy bushes, too.

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterAndrew

"The first MP3 player worth buying"?

I'm sorry, while Apple has made some nice products, the iPod was ALL marketing and hype, that's almost the only reason it became ubiquitous. MP3 players with nice interfaces and controls were extant well before Apple decided to capitalise on it.

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterFluck

LOL at the last panel! Thanks! Great way to start the day! :D

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSondra

As a software developer, we all pretty much copy each other since the days when women were actually the first programers as programming was the lower paid work compared to the hardware.

Considering the incredible amount of work that it takes to make this thing called a computer/smart phone/web site/database to work on a day to day basis, I really don't fear a Terminator like scenario.

We will destroy ourselves before that can happen.

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterAC

Not sure if he will follow in Gates' footsteps...

interesting read

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterpolarbear128

My biggest issue with Jobs during his tenure at Apple is no one else got any of the credit. Jon Rubinstein had a bigger hand in the iPod, iMac, etc. Tim Cook has been doing a lot of the day to day management with Steve sick and even when not doing that he had a bigger hand in turning them from making low margin/unprofitable machines to actually making a sizable profit on everything they make. Heck even in Jobs' first go around as CEO, Wozniak was basically the man that created everything. That being said, I really hope he's going to be healthy but then again considering his bout with pancreatic cancer it's amazing he has survived this long.

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJames

Just found this regarding Steve Jobs' and Apple's philanthropy:

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterGustav

This was great.

I had a chuckle with panel 5 where the cool bald guy standing behind his giant beige computer is reading a newton tablet ad. If he only knew that would be the future of all smart phones (blackberry and its copycat Nokia Communicator. :-) good panel there...

And the panel that shows him a bunch of years into the future holding an original patented iPod, which is the template of all future iOS hardware design.

The giddiest panel for me was panel 7 as he glances at patented widget apps (2005) running on a mac which are the fun little buttons you see on all future iOS devices. Hee Hee (cough).. funny drawings there...

Panel 8 a hoot.. you know, that same guy crying over his dusty beige computer as he notices Bill Gates pretending to be smooth lying across some table. Love these cartoons. Good times..

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterzoot

Nice to see some respect for Jobs as he semi-retires. The world is a better place for his being here.

@Fluck: "the iPod was ALL marketing and hype" is an oft-repeated and weak argument. An iPod is not a soft drink. You can't rake in the cash with smoke and mirrors if your product is electronics. The iPod sold well because it made using it easier than was previously possible. The iPod sold well because it got great reviews from unbiased reviewers. The iPod sold well because people like me wanted to carry scads of music around without having a backpack full of CDs and a Discman.

At its release, the competition for the iPod was a clunky Archos harddrive-based player. You can't compare just any MP3 player to a harddrive-based iPod.

September 2, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterSoul of Wit

You've summed up the whole Apple debate better in four panels better than any endless comments war ever has done.
And with great humour. *hat tip*

September 4, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterStefing

So... archive binge?


September 5, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterfumblr

Speaking of "the kid who copies off of your test, then gets a better grade than you": A quote often attributed to Steve Jobs is "Good artists copy; great artists steal". Tracing this to its roots gets you to T.S. Eliot ( see ), whose actual words are greatly apropos:

Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal;

Bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different.

The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different than that from which it is torn.

September 7, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterJorg Brown

Unless I'm missing sarcasm in the strip, it doesn't sum up the "debate" at all. Both these people are Apple fans with a distorted world view, arguing from a different point of view. What's the point of this strip - does the artist seriously believe these poor arguments, or is he ridiculing them? Consider:

"Microsoft made the first OS with a GUI"

"I had a Mac that did that years before"

"But my 1995 PC was much better than your 1984 Mac. Therefore we should credit Windows!"

See the fallacy? Of course a 2007 phone will be better than something from years before, but that doesn't mean that Apple were first in anything! When the Iphone was released, there were more popular platforms. There have always been more popular platforms (Symbian until 2011, Android since). So it's never been true that Apple have been creating one that most people have been using.

Millions of people were using phones, computers, mp3 players long before Apple came along. The same claim could be made of Apple - their products wouldn't be anywhere near as good, if it wasn't for what they copied off of! Whatever new things Apple may have introduced, loads of other technology companies have been doing so also.

If we discount earlier tablets because they didn't sell as well, why can't we discount the Iphone because it didn't sell as well as Android or Nokia? Why can't we discount Mac OS, because it didn't sell as well as Windows?

There is nothing I use today that depends on something Apple did. I do however blame them for making tech news unreadable, or the fact that I can no longer get apps for my phone (it used to be all cross-platform Java - now everyone's only releasing for the bandwagon of the fewer users who have an Iphone).

And I wasn't aware that Apple even ever made a smartphone - unless you use a definition that includes even basic feature phones (which did apps, music, videos and web as far back as 2005 - these have long stopped being smartphone only features, and these days, "smartphone" is just a marketing label to justify a high price).

September 20, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterm

Or to put it another way:

Company A releases product a.
Company B releases product b which is better.
Company C (or perhaps A again) releases product c which is better still.

The Apple fan puts a ring round B (who happens to be Apple), and proclaims "Apple made the first X!" If you point out product a, they'll say that b is better, therefore the first one worth counting. If you point out c, they'll say that users of c should be thankful to Apple, because c wouldn't exist without them.

So why shouldn't Apple be thankful to company A? Or why not put the ring round company C, because theirs is the first one worth using? But no - the Apple fan always conveniently declares, after the fact, that Apple's is the "first" "best" one, even when you've got a continual evolution of products - and even if Apple's product isn't anywhere the best anyway when released (copy/paste? 3G? Video? Even my dirt cheap 2005 feature phone had these - no, instead they fixate on whatever one thing that Apple introduced, in this case multitouch, as being the be all and end all of important features).

I see it time and time again. With GUIs (Xerox -> MacOS -> loads of other operating systems), with mp3 players (Archos etc -> Ipod -> all the decent low end mp3 players you get that do far better than a Shuffle), and with tablets (Archos/Nokia/smartphones -> Ipad -> all the Android tablets). If Apple are okay with copying ideas and making things better, why have they legally prevented the release of Samsung's tablet?

September 20, 2011 | Unregistered Commenterm

Its a very true post, apple was not the 1st to come to market with so many things, but they added value and perfection to how people want to use it and thus made there name a brand name for innovating products.

Nice post

September 20, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterFamily Auto Insurance

RIP Jobs!

October 11, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterArpit

I'm sorry Steve Jobs has passed away. I'll say, though, that I've grown to detest Apple heartly this last few years. I have two Macs. The PowerBook is the slowest computer I've ever seen and has been through FOUR hard drives in six years. The iMac is a $1100 paperweight because Apple insisted on using a hardware model invalidated in the early 1990's: the video card is built into the processor card. When the video card fails, throw out the computer. Replacing it costs TWICE as much as a new iMac.

I now have a nice Lenovo ThinkPad and my wife has a Toshiba. We are running Win7, and unlike the Apple OS, it actually works. I will never buy another Macintosh computer again.

The only Apple products I've ever purchased that worked well, consistently, and reliably were iPods. I love my shuffle, and before I got an Android phone, my Touch was the first PDA I'd owned that actually worked.

Your mileage may vary, but I find Apple's hardware to be overpriced, failure prone garbage.

December 11, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterChris Rivan

Well, it is true Steve Jobs wasn't the first who invented all the stuff mentioned in here but somehow he deserved the respect. Marketing, management...whatever but I do not think he was so bad guy some get used to describe him. Hopefully they are wrong.

May 17, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterAnnette Carroll

Clearly the windows guy is running it on his mac LOL

January 16, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJ

Steve Jobs is worse than Bill Gates. Most Apple products weren't create by Jobs, but he did take all the credit. A Windows computer is far easier to use than a Mac. And there's that stupid virus claim that Apple fanboys like to go saying. "A Mac can't get a virus." This is of course, completely false. The reason Macs don't get viruses is that no one bothers to write one for the 1% of the population that uses a Mac.
In conclusion, this.

January 15, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterMoistRobot

Steve Jobs didn't actually make any of those. He was a marketer, not a designer or engineer. Meanwhile, Bill Gates is actually a programmer.

February 7, 2015 | Unregistered CommenterSpider
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